bought the eco hype for 85K tread wear and better mileage. The mileage is about .3 mph better, as quiet and better riding than OEM Dunlops runflats BMW puts on. Wanted a smoother ride and got it. Decent in heavy rain in a straight line, but wet traction for braking and corning is awful. In light mist this am, traction light on at every corner and ABS can be invoked quite easily when it's wet. Like everything but wet traction and in KC, this means I won't buy these again even if they otherwise are nice tires.