Tire Rack Consumer Review of the Michelin X-Ice Xi3

Thursday, April 3, 2014 by Tire Rack Consumer Reviews

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Michelin X-Ice Xi3 Reviewer's Overall Rating: 8.89
 
 

2011 Volvo C70 T5
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Miles driven on tires: 200
Location: Glen Mills, PA
Driving Condition: Average
 

Initial Review, 200 Miles on Tires
December 08, 2013

These tires are great in the snow. I got caught in a sudden snow storm in PA and these tires were unstoppable. I was passing cars, trucks & SUVs that were stuck without a single problem. Last year with my "all-season" tires I couldn't even make it up my driveway with a dusting of snow. Given that I bought these tire for their snow & ice handling I am very pleased.

As far as handling is concerned, I've noticed these tire feel slightly softer than my other tires but then these are on 16" wheels vs 18" wheels. I don't drive aggressively so I haven't noticed any degradation under normal driving conditions. So far there is no road noise to speak of and performance on wet roads has been excellent.

Given that these are WINTER tires and if you are buying them you are looking for winter performance I think they are fabulous. I don't know why people stopped buying winter tires.

Tire Rack Consumer Review of the Pirelli Cinturato P7 All Season Plus

Tuesday, April 1, 2014 by Tire Rack Consumer Reviews

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Pirelli Cinturato P7 All Season Plus Reviewer's Overall Rating: 9.4
 
 

2008 Toyota Avalon Limited
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Miles driven on tires: 500
Location: Ashford, CT
Driving Condition: Easy Going
 

Initial Review, 500 Miles on Tires
March 24, 2014

Just put a set on wife's 2008 Avalon, only driven 500 miles on dry roads so far, but VERY happy with these Pirelli's that replaced Michelin Energy MXV4's that wore out way too soon. Have a separate set of wheels/winter tires, so can't comment on snow/ice traction, but other reviews appear positive. Like the responsiveness as well as the ride, and they're pretty quiet on the highway. These are really great tires, I only wish they made them in the size my truck takes, I'd order a set in a heartbeat.

Tire Rack Consumer Review of the General Altimax Arctic LT

Thursday, March 13, 2014 by Tire Rack Consumer Reviews

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General Altimax Arctic LT Reviewer's Overall Rating: 9.27
 
 

1990 GMC Rally Van
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Miles driven on tires: 5,000
Location: Endicott, NY
Driving Condition: Average
 

Initial Review, 5,000 Miles on Tires
March 11, 2014

OMG, these are the most incredible snow tires I have ever owned, I run em' at 32psi, it is just right. They are not noisy, excellent traction, I shoulda' bought a pair for the front of my truck. I am in upstate NY, the winter here this year needless to say has been harsh. No problem what so ever with these tires. I would buy them again in a heartbeat.

Tire Rack Consumer Review of the Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric All-Season

Tuesday, March 11, 2014 by Tire Rack Consumer Reviews

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Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric All-Season Reviewer's Overall Rating: 10
 
 

2013 Honda Civic Coupe
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Miles driven on tires: 500
Location: Daisytown, PA
Driving Condition: Spirited
 

Initial Review, 500 Miles on Tires
February 13, 2014

These are outstanding tires that I would highly recommend for so owners. Although these are not winter tires they performed flawlessly when traveling in a wicked snow storm,even passing stuck salt trucks on terrible roads. Much quieter than OE Michelin tires. Wet traction, snow, dry are also much improved. Can't comment on wear but they are outstanding tires WAY better than OE set that only lasted for 13000 miles and were down to 2/32 tread depth. I loved the look on peoples faces as they struggled with there 4wd vehicles to get around in snow as I pass them! Must have for northeast winters if all you want to run is all season tires.

Tire Rack Consumer Review of the Firestone Destination A/T

Tuesday, March 4, 2014 by Tire Rack Consumer Reviews

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Firestone Destination A/T Reviewer's Overall Rating: 9.07
 
 

2006 Honda Ridgeline
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Miles driven on tires: 60,000
Location: Santa Ynez, CA
Driving Condition: Average
 

Initial Review, 60,000 Miles on Tires
February 28, 2014

These tires are a great choice for a light truck. I have over 60000 miles on this set, and I will be ordering another set within a week or two. I drive a combination of highway and city, and during the winter, some occasional snow driving. The tires have performed very well in all conditions. They are reasonably quiet, look great, and you simply can't beat the mileage. Look not further friends...these are the best...not only in performance, but also in price!

Tire Rack Consumer Review of the Goodyear Wrangler DuraTrac

Monday, March 3, 2014 by Tire Rack Consumer Reviews

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Goodyear Wrangler DuraTrac Reviewer's Overall Rating: 8.86
 
 

2008 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited X
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Miles driven on tires: 36,000
Location: Gordon, NE
Driving Condition: Average
 

Initial Review, 36,000 Miles on Tires
February 01, 2014

When I was looking at new tires everyone was pretty much in agreement that these were 'the' tires to get for a Jeep. And they were right. I have been extremely happy with them. Half of my daily drive is on gravel (roughly 16 miles) and it amazes me how well the tread has held up, as gravel just eats the tread off most tires.

I don't think that there is any additional road noise on the highway than the stock light truck tires my Jeep originally came with, which surprised me since these have a much more aggressive tread.

I'm getting ready to buy a new set for this coming winter and by then I should have close to 45,000 miles on these.

Tire Rack Consumer Review of the BFGoodrich All-Terrain T/A KO

Friday, February 28, 2014 by Tire Rack Consumer Reviews

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BFGoodrich All-Terrain T/A KO Reviewer's Overall Rating: Not Rated
 
 

2000 Toyota 4Runner SR5 4wd
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Miles driven on tires: 65,000
Location: Belleville, MI
Driving Condition: Spirited
 

Initial Review, 65,000 Miles on Tires
February 25, 2014

I've put over 65000 miles on these tires in all kinds of driving conditions. The only time I've had some concern with these tires is when I'm on ice or deep mud. But this is an All-Terrain tire meaning it's good in all conditions (if you want a tire that specialized in going through mud, get a mud tire! Same goes for driving in winter/ice). I rotate my tires every 5000 miles and after putting 65000 miles on the guy at my tire shop told me I could probably put another 10K-15K on them. As far as reliability goes. I've never had a flat. On numerous occasions when I've brought my truck in for rotations the service people have pulled out nails or bolts from my tires (they're usually stuck in the tread).. again, I've never had a flat tire! These tires are a little more $$$ and they will cut your mpg's down compared to a regular all season or typical OE radial, but this tire CAN do it all and it WILL last!

Tire Rack Consumer Review of the Bridgestone Blizzak WS70

Friday, February 28, 2014 by Tire Rack Consumer Reviews

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Bridgestone Blizzak WS70 Reviewer's Overall Rating: 9.27
 
 

2012 Chrysler 300 Limited
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Miles driven on tires: 3,500
Location: Menasha, WI
Driving Condition: Average
 

Initial Review, 3,500 Miles on Tires
February 23, 2014

These tires are simply amazing. The traction in snow and on ice is beond what I would have expected. I can drive through light/ moderate snow and on ice easily better than I can in my truck with all terrain tires on. My wife has loved them and has found herself asking what everyone elses problem is trying to drive in the snow. I will recomend these to anyone and everyone. I myself will next time the tires I use on my truck for winter(all terrains) with the truck equiolent of the Blizzak WS70

Tire Rack Consumer Review of the Bridgestone Blizzak WS70

Thursday, February 20, 2014 by Tire Rack Consumer Reviews

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Bridgestone Blizzak WS70 Reviewer's Overall Rating: 8.82
 
 

2012 Honda Odyssey
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Miles driven on tires: 700
Location: New Rochelle, NY
Driving Condition: Spirited

Initial Review, 700 Miles on Tires
February 11, 2014

I bought this tire a month ago to slap on our 12' Odyssey minivan after it was clear this was going to be the winter from "The Day After Tomorrow." A genius move. My minivan is now like a snowcat capable of grooming trails on Mt. Fuji. Over ice the van remains under control. Over packed snow permanently residing over our streets these past several weeks, I can accelerate and pass any car or truck in my way. The tires do not slide away but rather bite and pull with confidence. The rear-end of the long minivan always feels stable. The difference between these dedicated snow ties and our OEM all-seasons is more stark than Madonna's face at the Grammy's. Dry traction is much better than expected considering my past experiences years ago with the WS-50s. An added bonus is how the soft tread blocks soften the impacts with the new potholes created by over-caffinated snow plow operators. Overall, I couldn't be happier after spending money out of budget in January. So far the snow keeps coming and we keep going. I strongly recommend these tires to any wife out there that refuses to listen to her husband's plea for approval to spend money on "snow" tires. Your ignorance will quickly be replaced with enlightenment.

 

Tire Rack Consumer Review of the Bridgestone Dueler A/T Revo 2

Thursday, February 20, 2014 by Tire Rack Consumer Reviews

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Bridgestone Dueler A/T Revo 2 Reviewer's Overall Rating: 8.15
 
 

1998 Chevrolet K1500 Z71 Pick-up
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Miles driven on tires: 27,000
Location: Chesterfield, VA
Driving Condition: Average

Initial Review, 27,000 Miles on Tires
February 08, 2014

I liked this tire for the first 15-20K miles. It seemed to do everything pretty well. Rode quiet on road even with the aggressive tread pattern. Had very good traction on all surfaces. I'm OK with under half the tread left at 27K miles but the characteristics of the tire have changed dramatically. It still has good dry and wet road traction but the tread is producing a rumbling vibration at highway speed that seriously vibrates the interior of the vehicle. What hard-packed snow traction the tire had is gone. My truck had a hard time climbing a hill into our campground this winter. Even after I switched to 4WD, It spun significantly before it got rolling again. My sister's Dodge minivan with Bridgestone all-seasons and front wheel drive conquered the hill with far less drama. Maybe I should've got the LT versions instead of the P but in summary.. tire was superior in most regards when new but at 20-25K miles, it lost most of its allure. I will look for something else when I buy later this year.

 

Tire Rack Consumer Review of the Michelin LTX A/T 2

Thursday, February 20, 2014 by Tire Rack Consumer Reviews

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Michelin LTX A/T 2 Reviewer's Overall Rating: 8.87
 
 

2007 Toyota Tacoma Access Cab
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Miles driven on tires: 10,000
Location: Tehachapi, CA
Driving Condition: Average

Initial Review, 10,000 Miles on Tires
February 15, 2014

So I really researched the heck out of what tire was right for my 4x4 tacoma. We live at 6000 ft and can get up to a foot of snow at a time in winter. We needed a fairly aggressive tire tread for winter. But I also was weary of tire noise and the mileage hit you get with some AT tires. This tire hit the sweet spot. I had to back up a fairly steep incline on my property with a moderately loaded trailer in snowy mud. Although this probably speaks as much to the capability of a 4x4 tacoma with the locking diff I know I couldn't have made it with the dueler h/t that came on the truck. This tire has very little road noise and has just aggressive enough tread to get it done while offroad. I would highly recommend this tire to someone in my situation where you frequently drive unimproved roads as well as highway. Also, get the load range E light truck tire because the ride is no worse and for a nominal increase in cost you get a bit more tread depth and load rating which is well worth the money. Kudos to Michelin on a well balanced light truck tire!

 

Tire Rack Consumer Review of the Goodyear Ultra Grip Winter

Tuesday, February 18, 2014 by Tire Rack Consumer Reviews

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Goodyear Ultra Grip Winter Reviewer's Overall Rating: 7.73
 
 

2001 Mercury Cougar V6
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Miles driven on tires: 10,000
Location: Reading, PA
Driving Condition: Spirited

Initial Review, 10,000 Miles on Tires
February 16, 2014

This is my first set of Goodyear tires in a very long time. I have been running winter tire/summer tire combo for 14 years now. I've had Dunlop Graspics, Hankook Icebears for the past 5 years, Firestones witerfire, and so far these have been the best so far. My Abs hardly comes on compared to running on an all season tire. I would pass 4x4 and all wheel drive cars. I've gone by people stuck up hills and I just keep on trucking. I travel the PA turnpike and local roads to work and these tires haven't let me down. Pennsylvania has been hit hard with snow and these tires have been very good to me. Especially for the cost.

 

Tire Rack Consumer Review of the General Altimax Arctic

Friday, February 7, 2014 by Tire Rack Consumer Reviews

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General Altimax Arctic Reviewer's Overall Rating: 8.09
 
 

2010 Honda Accord Coupe
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Miles driven on tires: 1,000
Location: North Plainfield, NJ
Driving Condition: Average

Initial Review, 1,000 Miles on Tires
December 18, 2013

The winters in Jersey are hit or miss. And usually I have to commute to work before the plows are out.

These tires have completely removed all anxiety from driving in the snow. A lot of the time I gotta check myself from driving too fast because these tires make you feel invincible. The difference between the Generals and my "all season" tires is night and day.

Nothing better than passing a 4wd SUV or truck spinning their tires, going nowhere.
The only issue I noticed is a lot of road noise when its dry out. But for the few months out of the year they are on the car its really a non-issue.

 

Tire Rack Consumer Review of the General Grabber AT 2

Friday, February 7, 2014 by Tire Rack Consumer Reviews

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General Grabber AT 2 Reviewer's Overall Rating: 8.85
 
 

1999 Mazda B3000 SE Cab Plus 2wd
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Miles driven on tires: 8,000
Location: Wayne, NJ
Driving Condition: Average

Initial Review, 8,000 Miles on Tires
December 18, 2013

I've got 8000 miles on these tires and just got through 3x back to back winter storms in New Jersey (avg. 6 - 10 inches snow) and these tires are AMAZING! I've got a 2wd truck without a locking differential so this should be the worse in the snow. With these tires I don't even realize I'm in slippery snow! I can get moving without any issues, stopping is pretty good (still have to be cautious as it is still snow...) and I never got stuck even on 30 degree inclines with 4+ inches of snow. Road noise is minimal on the highway and so far tread wear is great. Love these tires!

 

Tire Rack Consumer Review of the Michelin Pilot HX MXM4

Friday, February 7, 2014 by Tire Rack Consumer Reviews

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Michelin Pilot HX MXM4 Reviewer's Overall Rating: 8.6
 
 

2014 Dodge Challenger
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Miles driven on tires: 3,000
Location: Lawrenceburg, KY
Driving Condition: Average

Initial Review, 3,000 Miles on Tires
February 06, 2014

I gave the tire an 8 for comfort due to "flat-spotting" on cold mornings. Tire feels like a truck tire for the first few miles in cold weather. Otherwise, absolutely silent on the road and very smooth. Traction in rain and snow is superb. I drive a Dodge Challenger and I come from the 4x4 world. This is my first car in 12 years. So honestly I didn't expect it to do well in snow at all being a rear wheel drive car. But these Michelin Pilot tires have really surprised me. We are currently in the middle of one of our worst winters in my lifetime and I haven't been stuck once yet. This morning other front wheel drive cars and two wheel drive trucks couldn't get out of my neighborhood. My rear-drive Challenger made it out. Completely the opposite of what you'd expect. I think these tires are fantastic in snow and ice. They have really made me a believer. They are also very good in the rain. I've never spun the tires or felt the car beginning to hydroplane. Honestly, these tires are really great in all conditions. I'm not a Michelin fan because they are usually overpriced but these things are great. Quiet, fuel efficient, and very good in snow and ice so far. Hopefully they wear well as the years pass.

 

Tire Rack Consumer Review of the Michelin LTX M/S2

Thursday, February 6, 2014 by Tire Rack Consumer Reviews

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Michelin LTX M/S2 Reviewer's Overall Rating: 9.82
 
 

2004 Nissan Titan King Cab
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Miles driven on tires: 68,000
Location: Jenks, OK
Driving Condition: Average

Initial Review, 68,000 Miles on Tires
February 03, 2014

This is by far the best tire I have ever owned, and it's not even close.

The ride is smooth and quiet. The traction is amazing, on both dry and wet roads. These tires cut through water and all but eliminate hydroplaning. When I need to use 4WD at job sites to get through mud, I have few problems for a road tire.

In snow and ice, no problem. Winter traction is fantastic. One morning I was the first vehicle on the road with 16" of snow, and with 4WD these tires plowed right through it.

I love these tires. I'm at 68k with rotations every 5-6k miles, and will get 5k more before it's time to replace them. Over 70k miles in a full size truck is great.

I'm getting these tires installed on my wife's Jeep Commander tomorrow.

 

Tire Rack Consumer Review of the General Grabber AT 2

Monday, January 27, 2014 by Tire Rack Consumer Reviews

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General Grabber AT 2Reviewer's Overall Rating: 9.2

1997 Dodge Dakota 4wd
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Miles driven on tires: 1,000
Location: Silver Spring, MD
Driving Condition: Average

Initial Review, 1,000 Miles on Tires
July 26, 2007

While Maryland isnt exactly the snowbelt, Im actually from NY, and my girlfriend (its her truck) is from Idaho. Were driving out to her hometown this fall and Ill be staying there probably through November, then driving back East. Since I do heavy construction, and construction sites are often muddy and difficult, combined with the snow in upstate NY, we wanted good AT tires on the truck. So far these are performing excellent, with phenomenal dry traction and good mud traction. I drove ambulances for a living, for fourteen years in NYC, so I have a great appreciation for tires that grip the road. These AT2s are doing a great job so far and I expect them to handle the coming Northern Idaho winter travel with ease.



About the only negative Ive found with these tires, so far, is that my gas mileage dropped quite a bit. I had been getting about 18 mpg highway and I now seem to be getting about 15.5, even with inflation pressures on the hard side. Well see if that changes any as the tires get broken in.

Tire Rack Consumer Review of the Kumho Road Venture SAT KL61

Monday, January 27, 2014 by Tire Rack Consumer Reviews

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Kumho Road Venture SAT KL61 Reviewer's Overall Rating: 6.85
 
 

2004 Chevrolet Silverado K1500 Ext
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Miles driven on tires: 30,000
Location: Hershey, PA
Driving Condition: Average

Initial Review, 30,000 Miles on Tires
January 14, 2014

I bought these before going through a major snow storm in New York and they handled great! Went everywhere in 2wd. The next winter had about 6-7" "which was less in NY storm" of snow and handled great but had to use 4wd, due to the fast tread wear. Did not like the tread wear and cupping on steer tires. Rotate every 5k miles and still got cupping. My alignment is SPOT, SPOT on with in .01 degrees on and all new steering parts before install. I myself am a mechanic for a living and made sure that was all done. Had to adjust rear tire and front tire pressure every rotation to get even wear and try to mitigate the wear issues.

These tires did okay in the mountains and were okay in the mud/wet dirt roads. I do get A LOT A LOT of spinning on wet roads and turns after/during rain conditions. Did not like the longevity of the tires, seemed to be too short for what people were saying they got. Would not recommend these tires for someone looking for a long lasting tire on a truck.

Hope this review helps.

 

Tire Rack Consumer Review of the General Altimax Arctic

Friday, January 10, 2014 by Tire Rack Consumer Reviews

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General Altimax Arctic Reviewer's Overall Rating: 9.14
 
 

2003 Chevrolet Venture
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Miles driven on tires: 300
Location: Thomasville, PA
Driving Condition: Average

Initial Review, 300 Miles on Tires
December 06, 2013

so far rain and dry roads are all i have tryed these on but for the 1st time in 10 years i have owned this van now i see why tire rack tells you to run all 4 snow tires,i always use 2 on the front and thats it but today on wet roads i was pushing the snow tires around turns on wet roads to see how far i could push them and my back end came around on me 2 times.This has never happened before and i have tryed 2 other snow tires before these and none has held the wet roads like this,i cant beilve it so i just bought 2 more for the rear,now i need snow and when i get some i will update.I had snow and ice yesterday but i hade no reason to go out.When i was younger every winter when it snowed i would find a empty lot and play in it and slid my car around this in turn would show me how far i could go,i never had a wreck that was my faught and i think alot was because i always knew how far i could push myself and my car/truck
P.S. the other snow tires i tryed 1 was cheapper and the other was much more but like i said no snow yet

 

Tire Rack Consumer Review of the Michelin LTX A/T 2

Thursday, January 9, 2014 by Tire Rack Consumer Reviews

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Michelin LTX A/T 2 Reviewer's Overall Rating: 6.64
 
 

2013 GMC Sierra 2500 HD 4wd
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Miles driven on tires: 13,800
Location: Anchorage, AK
Driving Condition: Average

Initial Review, 13,800 Miles on Tires
January 09, 2014

Straight line tracking is a bit imprecise, but that could be the truck. Usable on ice and packed snow, but you have to be careful and take your time. These are not winter tires, IMO, but will get you by if you must. Did some towing and city driving in snow and on ice last winter and don't recommend them for that. Otherwise, they're pretty good, but a bit overpriced. Wearing well after nearly 14K. Ride comfort is dependent upon load in this truck, and most of my driving has been unloaded; the ride is a bit harsh considering that, but is expected. No off-road use to date, no comment or rating for that.