When I 1st got the tires I was pretty impressed. They were quite and did average in the snow and rain. I purchased them because they were rated above Michelin and around $300 cheaper. They must be a pretty soft tire because now that I have 35,000 miles on them they are worn out even with doing everything like checking tire pressure and rotating them every 5,000 miles(And that is with only driving them in four wheel drive due to snow for about 500 miles). Guess it pays to spend an extra $300 if you get twice the miles out of them which I did out of the previous set of Michelins.