I drove these tires for, believe it or not, 20,000 miles. This was daily driving, and probably 4 or 5 autocrosses (comprised by 10 runs each). The tires held up very well, and they are totally used up now. Wet traction dropped significantly over the last 5,000 miles, but most of the tread was gone as well. For the money, it is hard to beat these tires. They are 1/3 the price of Michelins, and last longer. If you want to quibble about traction differences, OK, maybe other tires might have better traction, but I couldn't prove it in my driving. For the money, I wouldn't drive on anything else. And as far as road noise, they aren't bad. It is easy to hold a reasonable conversation in the car with these tires at highway speeds, or listen to the radio. But, to be honest, talking on the cell phone can be a bit challenging. Overall, a great value, and wonderful tire.