alright, just drove from home from work. these tires prior to this drive had just over 400 miles on them, so the tread was well broken in. on this particular drive however, there was 4 inches of snow and counting. the snow was extremely thick, not powder. on this drive, i never once white-knuckled the steering wheel as i had the previous winter on my not so enjoyable tires (kumho solus kh-250). these pirellis inspired confidence in the way i drove. i am very pleased with the winter performance of these tires and cant wait to see how summer goes!