These tires seem fine in deeper snow, but are poor on ice, and terrible in dry conditions, especially when it is warmer. Lots of tread squirm, especially if you have to make a sharp maneuver on top of braking. Very sketchy dry road stability and poor steering input and sharpness. Only driving in deep snow? They are fine, but others are too, and the others do not squirm excessively in dry conditions. I would have bought Blizzaks again, but seems they were no longer made in the size I wanted. So Michelin...lots of work to do. How can you make Pilot Super Sports so good, and these so poor?