These tires are VERY, VERY good! I could not find a single bad thing to say about them for the first 40,000 miles. That has changed somewhat in the last 15,000 miles. They are getting louder and louder by the mile and I think I still have another 15,000 to go. They still stick to dry pavement like glue and handle very well, but wet and snow traction have fallen off quite a bit, as expected. I will most likely buy them again, we will see how loud they get before they are done, but they do everything better than any other tire I have ever owned.