You get what you pay for. Excellent tires. Bought this set in Feb'11 traded truck in last week and had them swap the junk Goodyear ST's out and put my Michelins on my new truck. They had 20000 miles on them with no sign of wear. the day I drove to swap them out it was pouring down rain. The Goodyears would spin on takeoff and slide during hard braking. Left the dealership with my Michelins installed and you can tell the difference. Why any manufacturer would put those garbage Goodyears on a 4x4 is beyond me. I now feel more confident to take on another midwest winter.