First, these tire are terrible and unsafe on wet roads. I have to drive like I do in light snow with my Primacy MXV4 on my other car, no exaggeration. Probably the best of the LRR tires; but, that's not saying much. I wish I had gone with the Primacy MXV4 for this car too. I would gladly give up a few mpg for better handling and ride, lower noise, and safety.