I bought the tires then drove from Michigan to Norfolk, VA. These tires were quieter than my previous Kumhos. I liked the Kumho set the dealer put on the car enough to look for another set. I got 50000 on first set (I like to drive) and am certain I will get that out of this purchase. I found nothing wrong with these tires on flat dry services, in the rain (and the rain got heavy in VA), or in the mountains on the twisting roads. I love them already. The first 1500 miles and these tires have been thru alot. I have confidence they will shine in a Michigan winter.