We love the hankooks,pleasently surprised by the handling and ride characteristics! I drive fast and hard on some tough roads!In the ADK mts upstate NY, I don't know why anyone who can handle a car or van would have a problem with the hankooks except if your driveing a small car like a civic, you should check the air pressure! any tire will break loose with too much air in it on slick roads. Ive had alot of tires on vans and some cars with 300 hp power,RW drive. Ive tried alot of brands always go for an all season performance tire up in the Adirondacks. There is however a bit of tire nose, but nothing compared to some other M&S tires.! turn up the stereo,these tires really work in the bad weather! try them ! KJK Lake placid ny.