I had these tires on my 2011 scion xb, they have been on since the day i bought it in 2010. i am still a teenager so I do drive a little faster and more aggressive than most people. I take my turns slightly faster so I do notice these tires performance in the dry isnt really great, I feel these tires slip all the time even when i first bought the car. I lose traction when i gas it from a stop, I feel them slide making turns, and don't even get me started in the wet. It is 20 times worse, I have to drive slower than a grandma literally, these tires are horrible in the rain. I thought it was just the way i drive that I'm only getting such little mileage from these tires but reading everyones reviews show that I'm in the average ball park range of 30K.