This is my 3rd set of General Altimax Arctic snow tires. Live in the foothills west of Golden, CO, up a canyon and off on a steep gravel county road. I have to work real hard at getting these tires to spin in packed snow or plowed roads conditions. They just grip and GO! Plus they have excellent stopping grip. I do have to be careful stopping so cars behind do not get too close. I seem to be able to out-brake most other vehicles. I leave them on all year on my Forester since they wear so well and do fine on dry roads and rain/mud. I find them to be a great tire value for their cost level. I hope they keep making them.