After so much struggle trying to find the right tire, I saw a video on you tube about the Winterforce tires. I was so impressed with the performance that I did a little more research and decided to try these tires. I am so glad I did!!!! for real!!!! Got them installed on our 2002 Ford Windstar last November for my wife and kids. We are so glad we did. This 2014 snow and Ice has been one of the worst for us. My wife drives to work and school and feels secure as these tires grip it's far one of the best. Sine I work about a 1/2 hour away from my house i have piece of mind knowing that my wife can drive under any weather conditions. I recommend them to anyone!!!!!!!!!!