I currently own two vehicles and did some tire testing tonight with both vehicles so I could write a proper review. The car I bought the Winterforce tires for(Size: 195/65R15) is a 2000 Saab 9-5 wagon. It's front wheel drive with traction control and ABS. The other vehicle is a 1991 Nissan Pathfinder 4x4 with 31 inch Yokohama Geolander AT-S tires. We have about 6 inches of snow and it's still falling. The roads are very slick right now with a nice packed layer of snow on them. Plus there is a large unplowed parking lot across the street. The Pathfinder in 2 wheel drive didn't fair so well in the traction department. I was pushing both vehicles to their limits and the rear wheel drive had me sliding and spinning out fairly easily on both the road and especially in the parking lot. With the truck in 4wheel drive it did really well but I was still able to pitch the truck sideways at will and set it into a nice controlled slide. The Geolanders are great in the snow but mine have quite a few hard miles on them. As for the Saab, the Winterforce tires have about 400 miles on them. When I got into the car I didn't have high hopes due to the way my truck was handling. To my surprise the Saab easily out performed my truck even with it in 4wheel drive!!!! On the slick road and in the unplowed parking lot it really took quite a bit of effort to shake it loose. Granted the traction control is playing a major role in this. When I turn it off I can easily spin the tires but it still never really felt out of control. Plus it's a manual transmission car so popping the clutch in the snow will spin any tire on the market. Even under braking the tires did awesome. I can't complain at all. They do what they were made to do very well. As for dry handling. Some are saying they make their cars feel out of control. I don't know what they are talking about. They handle really well for a specialty snow tire being used on a dry road. Even at 70mph they feel fine. They do make noise though.