When I got these tires I didn't realize they came with no treadwear warranty. I didn't expect to get very many miles out of them but I have been pleasantly surprised by them. I have just over 20,000 miles on them as of this writing. When the were new they felt a little squirrely, especially on grooved pavement but that feeling went away after about 200 miles. Wet traction has been exceptional and these tires inspire as much confidence as can be had when hitting a large puddle at speed. As they've worn I do detect a little more road noise but that could just be me getting old. I think I'll get at least 25,000 out of this set, possibly more. They are good tires for the cost (for my needs).