I'm surprised at some of the very negative comments/ratings but I suppose it is all what your expectations and comparisons are. I have found these tires to be composed,comfortable and quiet, compared to the P-6's I was running on. And, price wise, these seemed very competative when I made my purchase,last March, hence no winter rating. I do agree the the response is not as fast as my P-6's but I believe these are a very good all around performance tire. If you are an M 5 driver you'll probably be unhappy, if you want a great all around tire, I think you'll love the Conti DWS's.