These were the factory tires on our minivan. They were always scary in our heavy Florida rains. They don't hydroplane badly when gently decelerating, but I have had them break traction at 60 mph with relatively little water on the road when attempting to maintain speed. That was with 6K-12K miles on them. Unacceptable. I should have pulled them off the first time that happened, but being cheap I decided to try to get them through one more dry season. The outer shoulders (which really suffer on most minivans) are completely bald at 19K miles. Again, unacceptable. Stay away from these tires!