This is my 3rd set.I get about 35000 to 40000 miles out of them till the wear bar.I don't baby cars! I love these tires and they look great on the car. For the price you get great performance. I drive fast and hard and they hold tight. Yes they have road noise louder then the stock tire but i can hit a corner as fast as I want and they hold true.You get what you pay for and these tires are a lot of bang for your buck. They run great in the rain. You get a little slipping in snow but no worse then every tire I ever had used in snow.Ice, who doesn't slip on ice, good luck with out studs.All in all I will buy them again.