This is my work van. I drive mostly in the city with a lot of stops during the day. I had Cooper Discovery HT's for the last 25,000 miles. They were Excelent tires for snow and wear. The tire place my company uses now didn't offer them. So they put on Nexen Roadian HT's. The worst tire I have ever seen. Used them 1 week and 350 miles. It was unreal how badly they handled. also Excessive wear was all ready visible. Had them replaced with these commercial seris BF Goodrich I would say they are halfway in between the two. It took almost 1,000 miles to show wear. (the Coopers took almost 5,000). We had two snows after puting these on and it was downright scary driving in it. I would not reccomend these tires. Buy yourself some Michelins (my choice for my own cars).