Tire Rack Consumer Review of the Kumho Ecsta PA31

Tuesday, March 4, 2014 by Tire Rack Consumer Reviews

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Kumho Ecsta PA31 Reviewer's Overall Rating: 8.27
 
 

2006 BMW X3 3.0I Sport Package
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Miles driven on tires: 6,000
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Driving Condition: Spirited
 

Initial Review, 6,000 Miles on Tires
February 17, 2014

Purchased these tires thru TireRack to replace the P Zero Nero's on the X3 when I bought it used. (96K miles, now at 103K after 4 months!) We took the X on a 1200-mile road trip with the Pirellis still on it, then changed to the PA31s just before the winter driving season. (Oregon allows AWD passenger vehicles with M&S tires to opt out of chains when otherwise required, but I wanted new, deep tread to feel comfortable!) Driving away from the tire shop after the changeover, the difference in the feel became apparent at the curb, pulling onto the street/highway. Literally. The ride with the M Sport package was expected to be firm, even downsized to 235/50-18, but with the Pirellis it was still pretty jarring. This tire was instantly more comfortable, both from a ride and noise standpoint. Road trip to San Diego (2000 miles R/T) was very smooth, and the tires were equally at home at 80 on the freeway and through sweeping curves. Absolutely no tramlining on grooved pavement, which we hit several times on that trip. The first snow of the year was followed by very cold air, which kept snow on the ground for a week -- very unusual for this area, but a great chance to try out the tire and the AWD on the X3. Both excellent in over 6" of snow. Not Blizzaks, to be sure, but I was pleasantly surprised with test stops, up to activating the ABS. Haven't measured tread depth after 6K miles but still look and feel very good. I was nervous about buying Kumho for this demanding an application, but have since bought a set for my son's Subaru, and will consider for other vehicles as well. Pretty unbeatable for the money.

Tire Rack Consumer Review of the Pirelli P Zero

Friday, February 28, 2014 by Tire Rack Consumer Reviews

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Pirelli P Zero Reviewer's Overall Rating: 7.5
 
 

2011 Volkswagen Tiguan
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Miles driven on tires: 48,000
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Driving Condition: Average
 

Initial Review, 48,000 Miles on Tires
February 19, 2014

Most reviews of the P Zero tire seem to come from owners of sporty cars and from residents of northern states (why? this tire is not for winter driving!). Here in Florida, on our VW Tiguan we get the performance and traction we expect, though wet surfaces do slightly challenge this tire. At 48K miles I estimate we still have 10K left on the tread. Overall, a tire that lives up to our expectations of a summer tire.

Tire Rack Consumer Review of the Pirelli P Zero Nero

Friday, February 28, 2014 by Tire Rack Consumer Reviews

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Pirelli P Zero Nero Reviewer's Overall Rating: 9.00
 
 

2013 Fiat 500 Abarth
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Miles driven on tires: 7,800
Location: Agoura Hills, CA
Driving Condition: Spirited
 

Initial Review, 7,800 Miles on Tires
February 25, 2014

this is the oem tire on my car. i will be probably at least shopping for a stickier tire but i just got back from laguna secs for an Abarth track day event (comes free with the car if you're looking for an excuse to buy an abarth) where i drove a standard abarth on standard brakes and tires and the tires gripped wonderfully. i could easily predict and feel the understeer and then feed on the power more correctly. the only time i was ever out of line was more my fault than the tires' and after feeling them maneuver that corkscrew with aplomb, i can safely say these tires are top notch and they kept me on the track, which is more than i can say of other tires, and they are quite talkative (you know when they're going to break away they begin to howl and you feel the slip happen but careful throttle modulation keeps grip easily).

Tire Rack Consumer Review of the Continental ExtremeContact DWS

Thursday, February 20, 2014 by Tire Rack Consumer Reviews

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Continental ExtremeContact DWS Reviewer's Overall Rating: 8
 
 

2010 Chevrolet Camaro SS
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Miles driven on tires: 25,000
Location: American Fork, UT
Driving Condition: Spirited

Initial Review, 25,000 Miles on Tires
February 18, 2014

Not a bad tire, I replaced the stock Pirelli P Zeros with these because of the reviews I read concerning their good all season traction, and specifically winter capabilities. They definitely aren't as sticky as the Pirelli's in dry weather, but they still stick pretty good, a great trade off for me considering how horribly the P Zeros handle in snow.

 

Tire Rack Consumer Review of the Pirelli Cinturato P7 All Season Plus

Tuesday, February 18, 2014 by Tire Rack Consumer Reviews

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Pirelli Cinturato P7 All Season Plus Reviewer's Overall Rating: 8.64
 
 

2013 Audi A3 2.0 TDI
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Miles driven on tires: 8,000
Location: Champaign, IL
Driving Condition: Average

Initial Review, 8,000 Miles on Tires
February 11, 2014

We've had an awful winter in Central IL (lots of snow and ice plus sub-zero temps)and this tire has performed beyond my expectations. I'm not always great about clearing our drive way and our A3 TDI (front-drive) plows right in and out. Great tire!!!

 

Tread Design Types and How They Differ

Friday, February 7, 2014 by Neal O'Neal

Not every tire is made the same, nor do they look the same. Tread designs help play a key role in traction ability, road noise and treadwear. Take a look at available tread designs and how they compare against one another.

Symmetric

A symmetric tread design is the most common and features continuous ribs or independent tread blocks across the entire tread face where both inboard and outboard halves feature the same pattern. Tires featuring symmetric tread patterns can be mounted in any direction and allow for multiple tire rotation options.

Asymmetric

An asymmetrical tread design changes pattern across the face of the tire. They're designed to blend the requirements of dry grip, water dispersal and snow traction. They incorporate larger tread ribs and blocks on the outboard side to increase cornering stability on dry roads by offering greater contact area. This also helps to reduce tread squirm and heat buildup on the outside shoulder. The inboard side usually features smaller independent tread blocks to aid wet and winter traction when driving straight ahead.


Firestone Precision Touring (Symmetric)

Michelin Defender (Asymmetric)


Directional

Also known as an unidirectional design, these tires are designed to roll in one direction. Their tread design points one way like an arrow or V. These grooves enhance hydroplaning resistance at high speeds. Unless they are dismounted and remounted on their wheels to accommodate use on the other side of the vehicle, directional tires are to be used on one side of the vehicle and are intended to be rotated from the front axle to the rear axle. If different tire sizes are used on the front compared to the rear axle, the tires become location-specific and prohibit tire rotation, unless remounted.

Asymmetric and Directional         

Although rare, these dual tread design tires have V-shaped tread grooves that are offset compared to the centerline of the tire. Tires featuring asymmetric and directional tread patterns must be treated as directional tires for tire rotation. However, if different tire sizes are used on the front and rear axle, they become location-specific and prohibit any tire rotation possibilities.


Hankook Ventus V12 evo K110
(Directional)

Pirelli P Zero Corsa System
(Asymmetric and Directional)


To learn more about tire designs, read "Tire Tread Patterns."

Tire Rack Consumer Review of the Pirelli P Zero Nero All Season

Thursday, February 6, 2014 by Tire Rack Consumer Reviews

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Pirelli P Zero Nero All Season Reviewer's Overall Rating: 8.2
 
 

2011 Audi A4 2.0T quattro
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Miles driven on tires: 2,000
Location: Avon Lake, OH
Driving Condition: Spirited

Initial Review, 2,000 Miles on Tires
February 05, 2014

Have been a Tire Rack customer for almost 20 years. Have purchased about 200 tires in that time! These P Zero Nero's are the first Pirellis....don't know why. I drive fast and I don't care much about tire wear because I buy speed rated tires and change them out by 30,000 miles. Live in Ohio so I buy High-Performance All Season tires. This winter has delivered approximately 5' of snow and it's only February!! Had to write a review...these tires are simply the best tires I have owned for snow and wet!! Can say for sure they beat Pole Positions(and they are properly rated higher)in bad weather. I have them at 7 or better in snow/wet. I am confident you would find them dead quiet and smooth at....let's just say around twice the legal limit. Can't wait to put them on '13 Tiguan AWD and '11 328ix!! Thanks Tire Rack! I'll be back!!!

 

Tire Rack Consumer Review of the Pirelli Cinturato P7 All Season Plus

Thursday, February 6, 2014 by Tire Rack Consumer Reviews

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Pirelli Cinturato P7 All Season Plus Reviewer's Overall Rating: 8.44
 
 

2009 Mazda Mazda6 Sport Sedan
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Miles driven on tires: 1,500
Location: Columbus, OH
Driving Condition: Spirited

Initial Review, 1,500 Miles on Tires
February 05, 2014

Recently purchased these tires to replace the factory Michelen tires. I have noticed an immediate reduction in road noise with these tires, and the comfort over pot marked roads has been a great improvement. Today, in Columbus Ohio (2-5-14) we received 6" of snow with a layer of ice over top of it over night. The tires handled it with an amazing amount of ease. Almost zero wheel spin while driving back roads over ice covered roads from the plows, as well as areas the plow missed and my car became the plow. Highway driving over somewhat plowed roads meant lane changes over slush, ice and snow at 30 - 40 mph and I had no issues. Was passing SUV after SUV this morning. Only incident I have had was I hit a rather large pot hole and blew the tire out. I do not think that the tire itself had anything to do with it, as much as it was in regards to the road conditions and the tire size is a low profile tire and they just can't handle impact like that. I would recommend this tire to anyone. I have had Goodyears, Michelen's , etc before and this has been my most remarkable tire to date.

 

Tire Rack Consumer Review of the Pirelli Cinturato P7 All Season Plus

Monday, February 3, 2014 by Tire Rack Consumer Reviews

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Pirelli Cinturato P7 All Season Plus Reviewer's Overall Rating: 8.67
 
 

2001 Pontiac Grand Prix GTP Sedan
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Miles driven on tires: 5
Location: Fort Wayne, IN
Driving Condition: Spirited

Initial Review, 5 Miles on Tires
December 23, 2013

Way better than the BFG Advantage I had, this is hard to say because I have two family members that work there. I am really impressed with these tires. Very good wet traction. Very good dry, could be better but with 300hp its not better unless I get race tires. I am really impressed with the grip in the snow, the BFG's I would just slip and slide all over. Even my wife noticed a huge difference and she knows nothing about cars, I mean nothing, lol. I have not gone on the highway much but don't hear anything cruzing through town. I have P Zeros on my Camaro and now on my GTP. I will be looking for a set to put on the CTS now! Buy these is you live in a mixed climate you will be very happy.

 

Tire Rack Consumer Review of the Pirelli P Zero Rosso

Monday, January 27, 2014 by Tire Rack Consumer Reviews

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Pirelli P Zero Rosso Reviewer's Overall Rating: 6.43
 
 

2007 BMW X3 3.0si
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Miles driven on tires: 6,000
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Driving Condition: Spirited

Initial Review, 6,000 Miles on Tires
January 17, 2014

great tires - you can corner the car at high speeds, great stability, great for agressive and non-agressive driving alike. negatives include lot's of road noise and impossible noise levels once worn down to the 2/32. mine got worn down after 12 months and 6000 miles. once worn they lose their grip like nobody's business. don't buy this unless you are acustomed to changing your tires with your oil change.

 

Tire Rack Consumer Review of the Pirelli P Zero Nero All Season

Monday, January 27, 2014 by Tire Rack Consumer Reviews

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Pirelli P Zero Nero All Season Reviewer's Overall Rating: 7.45
 
 

2012 Volkswagen GTI
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Miles driven on tires: 21,000
Location: Waunakee, WI
Driving Condition: Spirited

Initial Review, 21,000 Miles on Tires
January 02, 2014

All in all a pretty good tire. I have put them through two track days and am on my third winter with them and they have been my Swiss Army knife tires. They probably have another 15k in them and for how I have hammered on them I can't complain. They did get noisy at about 15k but cross rotated them and they are quiet again. The fault of this isn't the tire but the aggressive camber of the GTI in the rear. I also think the tread pattern and the sidewall look good. I would definitely purchase them for replacement to keep the oem look too.

 

Tire Rack Consumer Review of the Pirelli P Zero

Friday, January 10, 2014 by Tire Rack Consumer Reviews

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Pirelli P Zero Reviewer's Overall Rating: 6.86
 
 

2012 Buick Regal GS
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Miles driven on tires: 6,000
Location: Shelton, CT
Driving Condition: Spirited

Initial Review, 6,000 Miles on Tires
January 08, 2014

The tire is very capable in dry weather that is over 70 degrees. If it is colder out than that or wet out the tire is worthless for traction. The temperature part is obviously to be expected to some degree from this type of tire, but that it is also completely worthless in the wet as well, even when it is warm out, to me is unacceptable. It also breaks loose very unpredictably and drastically in those situations during straight line acceleration. The tires also developed a whining noise at speed that was quite noticeable after about 3000 miles of use. I ended up dumping them around 6000 miles for something less aggressive that suited the temperature range I use the car in better. I could not really evaluate tread wear at this point as there was still plenty of usable tread left on the tire.

 

Pirelli Makes Some of the Best Winter Tires for 2013

Tuesday, December 31, 2013 by Gary Stanley

Pirelli doesn't just make performance tires like the P Zero line, they also produce world class winter / snow tires for a range of vehicles from small cars and high performance sports cars to large SUVs, trucks and crossover vehicles. So, whether you need affordable studded snow tires for your Honda Civic, performance snow tires for your BMW 3 Series or tires for the family's SUV for ski trips, Pirelli has you covered!

 Pirelli Winter Carving
Pirelli Winter Carving
 Pirelli Scorpion Winter
Pirelli Scorpion Winter
 Pirelli Winter SottoZero 3
Pirelli Winter Sottozero 3


The Pirelli Winter Carving is a Studdable Winter / Snow tire made in a variety of sizes for those looking for a traditional studdable snow tire. With or without studs, the Winter Carving represents a great value in a traditional studdable winter tire. Note, that while studded tires are not the quietest tires, they do offer great snow and ice traction. To learn more about about using studded tires, read "Studded Tires for Winter Driving."

Pirelli's Scorpion Winter is an outstanding choice for crossovers, trucks and SUVs. It features an Ecoimpact icon branded on the sidewall to highlight the tire's contribution to the environment with regards to energy efficiency, clean air and low noise. The tire is designed to deliver low temperature wintertime driving performance by combining predictable handling on dry and wet roads with traction in snow and on ice.

Drivers looking for a high performance winter tire that will provide some winter traction for better dry road grip and steering response should consider the Pirelli Winter Sottozero 3. The tire was developed with the philosophy that winter tires must perform in a variety of unpredictable weather conditions.

All three tires feature aggressive, directional tread patterns for great water and snow/slush evacuation. Looking for winter aftermarket alloy wheels or steel wheels to mount your winter tires on? Check out "Steel Wheels Available at Tire Rack" for some great options.

Tire Rack Consumer Review of the Pirelli P Zero Nero All Season

Friday, December 6, 2013 by Tire Rack Consumer Reviews

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Pirelli P Zero Nero All Season Reviewer's Overall Rating: 8.33
 
 

2011 Volkswagen GTI-2 door
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Miles driven on tires: 40,000
Location: Bellevue, WA
Driving Condition: Average

Initial Review, 40,000 Miles on Tires
November 18, 2013

I had an old 2011 VW GTI ,this tires was almost worn out in approx. 40K and my tires were 5/32 on the front and 4/32 on my rear wheels, but its still doing well on wet traction but the sad part it was slipping on wet situation while I was on rapid acceleration and my dashboard warning came on, so it was about time I change tires on my front tires. Brought a pair of Michelle Tires trying to see what will happen after putting this Michelle on my front tires....I will wrote any review on this used one let said 3 - 4 months from now.

 

Tire Rack Consumer Review of the Continental ExtremeContact DW

Friday, December 6, 2013 by Tire Rack Consumer Reviews

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Continental ExtremeContact DW Reviewer's Overall Rating: 8
 
 

1986 Porsche 944 Turbo
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Miles driven on tires: 20,000
Location: Elyria, OH
Driving Condition: Spirited

Initial Review, 20,000 Miles on Tires
November 17, 2013

This is a great tire if you are looking for a comfortable and quiet touring tire. I can enjoy getting on the highway and driving 6-7hours to NY or NC. My car has had a variety of tires on it for the 17 plus years I have owned. May max performance tires will cup and make horrendous noise within 10K and ride very hard over rough roads pom this type a car. I was getting tired of the noise and harsh ride and wanted a comfortable touring tire like the original P6 they came with in 1986. I tried a Pirelli P zero nero, but that tire was poor in all areas of noise and wear. This tire fit the bill perfectly and has had great tire wear with very little cupping. I am running MO30 suspension and being a 16" wheel this tire will give up in a hard corner or when braking when pushed very hard in the dry. It does not squeal or give you a sign, but it will let go because of the larger soft side wall that gives it the comfortable ride. Maybe a 17" wheel conversion with this same tire would improve the cornering. You just have to know the limits of this tire and not get stupid or it may bite you. I would rate it as an excellent touring tire. I will probably buy again when the these wear out unless another model proves to combine the same comfort with an increase in performance.

 

Tire Rack Consumer Review of the Pirelli P Zero

Friday, December 6, 2013 by Tire Rack Consumer Reviews

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Pirelli P Zero Reviewer's Overall Rating: 7.38
 
 

2012 Mercedes-Benz E63 AMG Sedan
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Miles driven on tires: 10,700
Location: Grayville, IL
Driving Condition: Spirited

Initial Review, 10,700 Miles on Tires
October 11, 2013

Some aggressive acceleration but rear tires wore out at 10,700 miles. The fronts would probably go 18,000. They bite like no other tire I've ever had but too short of tread life with a 220 wear rating. Ride is also much harsher then the Michelin PS2's I had on my last AMG

 

Introducing the Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 3: Summer Tire Grip with All-Season Capability

Tuesday, August 20, 2013 by Zig Ziegler

Michelin's Pilot Sport A/S 3 aims to set a new level of grip for an all-season tire. Usually when comparing an all-season and summer tire, it would be expected that you would sacrifice a certain amount of "summer time" grip to have a tire you can drive in all seasons. Michelin's new Pilot Sport A/S 3 is designed to provide grip you would expect from a dedicated summer tire, while also providing traction in colder weather.

The Pilot Sport A/S 3 replaces the highly successful Pilot Sport A/S Plus. During Michelin's internal testing, the Pilot Sport A/S 3 provided more grip on a dry autocross than the Continental ExtremeContact DW and Pirelli P Zero Nero (both are dedicated summer tires).

 Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 3
Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 3
 Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 3
Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 3


Pilot Sport A/S 3 tires feature Michelin’s Helio compound made with sunflower oil combined with their Extreme Silica Technology to increase traction at low temperatures and on wet roads. Molded into an aggressive asymmetric tread pattern inspired by the Michelin Pilot Super Sport, its 4-, 5- or 6-rib designs are tuned to complement tire width and feature more rubber and rigid blocks on their outboard shoulders to provide high levels of lateral grip that offer as much dry cornering capability as some competitive summer performance tires. Wide circumferential grooves help resist hydroplaning and enhance wet traction. 3-D Variable Thickness Sipe Technology and unique biting edges in the tread grooves enhance cold weather snow mobility for all-season performance.

The Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 3 is offered in two performance categories, Ultra High Performance All-Season and High Performance All-Season. If you're looking to enjoy the grip of a summer tire with the capabilities of an all-season tire, be sure to strongly consider the Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 3.

Tire Rack Consumer Review of the Pirelli P Zero Nero All Season

Tuesday, April 16, 2013 by Tire Rack Consumer Reviews

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Pirelli P Zero Nero All Season Reviewer's Overall Rating: 7
 
 

2010 Mercedes-Benz E350 Sedan
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Miles driven on tires: 24,000
Location: Chicago, IL
Driving Condition: Average

Initial Review, 24,000 Miles on Tires
April 09, 2013

Loudest tires I have ever owned on uneven surfaces. The slightest ripple or roughness in the pavement creates extremely loud vibrations and noise.

 

Tire Rack Consumer Review of the Pirelli Scorpion Verde All Season

Thursday, April 11, 2013 by Tire Rack Consumer Reviews

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Pirelli Scorpion Verde All Season Reviewer's Overall Rating: 8.11
 
 

2006 Jaguar XJ8L
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Miles driven on tires: 4,000
Location: Houston, TX
Driving Condition: Average

Initial Review, 4,000 Miles on Tires
April 02, 2013

I think I am the only review here that has these "SUV" tires on a luxury passenger car. I bought these solely on price and reviews on Tire Rack, and I'm very pleasantly surprised at the outstanding quality and value. I came off a set of Hankook V-12's that were an excellent summer tire in all ways except tread life. Since I plan to sell this car in a year or so, I got the "cheapest" tire available. In terms of ride and quietness (2 traits most important to my wife), these even exceeded the Hankooks, which were in themselves vastly superior the the OEM Pirelli P-zeros. In deep snow in Colorado during a ski trip last month, they were outstanding; I did better than a guy in a Grand Cherokee (2wd) we were following during a heavy snow!
Anyone seeking a really good tire at an amazing price, don't hesitate getting these for ANY vehicle.

 

Tire Rack Consumer Review of the Pirelli P Zero Nero All Season

Thursday, April 11, 2013 by Tire Rack Consumer Reviews

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Pirelli P Zero Nero All Season Reviewer's Overall Rating: 7.09
 
 

2011 Ford Mustang GT Coupe
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Miles driven on tires: 10,000
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Driving Condition: Average

Initial Review, 10,000 Miles on Tires
April 03, 2013

These came stock on the 19" x 8.5" rims of my 2011 Mustang GT. I drive 6-speed with 3.55 gears, so the rear tires get a bit more shock treatment than that of an automatic.

Brand new, the tires are great. You almost can't get them to break traction short of turning the traction control off and dumping the cluth after reving up to red line. But after doing that a few times, you will find the traction/stickiness of the tire will have depleted.

They are still good all-around tires, but after a few months of driving, they lose their launch traction.

I have already replaced two sets (four tires total) in the two years that I have had the car and am about to replace another set on the rear. That would mean that about every 10,000-13,000 miles, they need replaced. The tread is not down to the cords or anything, but you can feel a major difference in the performance at the 10k wear point.

Road noise is pretty minimal for a low-profile tire and the ride is comfortable as the suspension on the GT with these tires rides very well. There seems to be a bit of roll/softness in cornering, but if you know your car well enough, you know what you can and can't do and the tires stay fairly firm. I will buy them again for all year tires, but I will probably switch to something stickier for Summer track action on street tires.