Tire Rack Consumer Review of the BFGoodrich g-Force Sport

Monday, July 21, 2014 by Tire Rack Consumer Reviews

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BFGoodrich g-Force Sport Reviewer's Overall Rating: 7.75
 
 

1990 Lotus Esprit Turbo SE
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Miles driven on tires: 20,000
Location: Windsor, ON
Driving Condition: Spirited
 

Initial Review, 20,000 Miles on Tires
May 22, 2014

I put these on my 1990 Lotus Esprit Turbo SE 2 years ago and they have been tremendous. Dry and wet weather grip for this type of mid engine car is extremely good. They give me a feeling of confidence while hard cornering that is stronger than any previous tire I've had on this car. That includes Pirelli , Toyo and Goodyear. I would purchase these again in a heart beat.

Tire Rack Consumer Review of the Pirelli Cinturato P7 All Season Plus

Monday, July 21, 2014 by Tire Rack Consumer Reviews

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Pirelli Cinturato P7 All Season Plus Reviewer's Overall Rating: 7.73
 
 

2007 Mitsubishi Eclipse GS
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Miles driven on tires: 12,000
Location:  
Driving Condition: Average
 

Initial Review, 12,000 Miles on Tires
April 30, 2014

Superior over the Goodyear RSA's. I cannot imagine why a MFG would put that tire on their car. Between the performance,wear and cost per tire. The P7's have proven to be a dream.
I have used them on a maxima, Supra and now the Eclipse. Very satisfied.

Tire Rack Consumer Review of the Goodyear Assurance ComforTred Touring

Monday, July 21, 2014 by Tire Rack Consumer Reviews

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Goodyear Assurance ComforTred Touring Reviewer's Overall Rating: 9.5
 
 

2011 Chevrolet Impala
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Miles driven on tires: 8,000
Location: Riverview, FL
Driving Condition: Easy Going
 

Initial Review, 8,000 Miles on Tires
April 24, 2014

I bought these tires to replace OEM Goodyear Eagle LS2s. I immediatly noticed dramatic improvements in ride noise, ride quality and cornering stability. Can a tire be quieter, smoother and still outcorner its OEM predecessor? Absolutely. These tires are whisper-quiet and have a good dampening effect over rough surfaces. This is my second set: We are well into a set on my other car (a small GM SUV) and could not be more pleased with the treadwear, the noise level and the ride quality. Buy these tires. You will be highly pleased.

Tire Rack Consumer Review of the General Grabber HTS

Monday, July 21, 2014 by Tire Rack Consumer Reviews

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General Grabber HTS Reviewer's Overall Rating: 8.77
 
 

2002 Dodge Dakota Club Cab 2wd
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Miles driven on tires: 14,000
Location: Eaton, OH
Driving Condition: Average
 

Initial Review, 14,000 Miles on Tires
May 05, 2014

I haven't had these tires for too awfully long, and they are do for a rotation-- however, no one could tell by looking at them. They still look great, and are wearing evenly (my truck is properly aligned). We had a harsh winter in Ohio last year, and these tires handled it well on my 2wd truck. Throw some sand in the bed and get moving... these were like winter tires compared to my Goodyear Eagles that came with the truck. They are about perfect for a 4x2 truck that doesn't see much off road action, and are nice and smooth on the highway. I have hit some potholes and haven't noticed any bubbles, or anything that has effected the tires. The only thing I've noticed is that they seem to pick up a lot of fine gravel that gets stuck in the siping. Otherwise, these are great, inexpensive tires that seem like they will last for a long time.

Tire Rack Consumer Review of the Pirelli Cinturato P7 All Season Plus

Tuesday, July 15, 2014 by Tire Rack Consumer Reviews

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Pirelli Cinturato P7 All Season Plus Reviewer's Overall Rating: 10
 
 

2000 Subaru Outback
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Miles driven on tires: 250
Location: Newington, CT
Driving Condition: Average
 

Initial Review, 250 Miles on Tires
May 15, 2014

With only 250 miles on these tires, I've already experienced very wet road conditions with excellent results at both highway and city street speeds and conditions.
Dry road handling is excellent. I am able to maneuver our many pot holes with extreme confidence. Years of autocross experience also helps.
I missed the snow season so can't comment at this time.
I went from an all season Goodyear Assurance triple tread with 85,000 on them (another tire that I rated almost as high as the Pirelli) then through the winter with Cooper snow tires, to the Pirelli Cinturato P7 Grand Touring.
The first major difference was the tire noise and gas mileage. These are the quitest tires I've ever had on my car. My gas milage avg is 25 mpg. This is 3 mpg better than the Goodyear and 7 mpg (to be expected) than the Cooper snows.
As with my Goodyear tires, I expect to get at least 80,000 miles out of them. Maintenance is the key to a long tire lifeand I perfome this religiously.
One othe note, They also look good on my Outback wagon.

Tire Rack Consumer Review of the Pirelli Cinturato P7 All Season Plus

Tuesday, July 15, 2014 by Tire Rack Consumer Reviews

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Pirelli Cinturato P7 All Season Plus Reviewer's Overall Rating: 9.25
 
 

2005 Mercury Grand Marquis
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Miles driven on tires: 1,500
Location:  
Driving Condition: Spirited
 

Initial Review, 1,500 Miles on Tires
April 23, 2014

I purchased these for my '05 Grand Marquis which has been tweaked a bit and is a bit of a sleeper. It's not your grandpa's Grand Marquis. I've always owned full sized, rear wheel drive, V8 cars because I drive about 30K-50K a year in S. Florida about 75% of it up and down the turnpike and I-95 usually at 80-90mph and so I favor highway cars. Biggest weather concern is rain and lots of it all of a sudden in the summer so I look for tires that can scavage the water out of the tread efficiently and hold the road. And on dry roads I want handling, cornering and stopping traction. Quiet is nice, too. I've had Michelins, Goodyear Eagle RS but generally favored BFGoodrich TAs over the years for their wide squared off footprint and deep 4-row tread. I was wary of Pirellis because I once drove a car with loud, hard as concrete Pirellis and developed a bias.

After reading the reviews here I took a chance on these. I'm very glad I did. They are without a doubt the best in all categories I've ever owned. They seem to roll with almost no resistance, corner and handle well, stop on a dime, keep a firm grip in the rain and are blessedly quiet. Once my car is up to speed it just rolls with these tires and I doubt she's over 1900rpms at 80mph. I can take the 270° exit ramps at 70mph. I love them and would definitely buy them again.

Tire Rack Consumer Review of the Michelin Premier A/S

Tuesday, July 15, 2014 by Tire Rack Consumer Reviews

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Michelin Premier A/S Reviewer's Overall Rating: 8.86
 
 

2008 Chevrolet Uplander LS 2wd
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Miles driven on tires: 400
Location: South Bend, IN
Driving Condition: Average
 

Initial Review, 400 Miles on Tires
April 09, 2014

Far better than the OEM Goodyear Integrity; better handling, quieter, smoother ride. Very impressed by the performance in wet, slushy snow conditions-almost forgot I wasn't on winter tires any longer.

Tire Rack Consumer Review of the Pirelli Cinturato P7 All Season Plus

Tuesday, July 15, 2014 by Tire Rack Consumer Reviews

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Pirelli Cinturato P7 All Season Plus Reviewer's Overall Rating: 9.29
 
 

2005 Mercedes-Benz E320 CDI Sedan
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Miles driven on tires: 300
Location: Auburn, WA
Driving Condition: Average
 

Initial Review, 300 Miles on Tires
May 14, 2014

Bought this tires based on good reviews here and I am so happy I did! First a few words about myself, I am big nut about tires, I used to have Tire Business in my country before I moved to the US. I drive two Mercedes 2003 and 2005 E320 CDI, so lets talk about the tires, first this is high quality tires with a good price and as all new tires they are quiet and smooth, but they are better then the rest , on 2003 e320 I have Good Year ComfortTread Touring, Before was Turanza Serenety, and before Serenety was Mich.,(drive my e320 for 9 years) so Why Pirelli is best over them, First, once they installed they smooth NO VIBRATION unlike Turanzas Surenety(8 times for balance 16 tires and sold them after 800 mile because bad vibration. Second, Pirelli is super Stable unlike GY Comfort Tread Touring( Puling to one side of the road and then to another, depends on the road slop). About ride comfort, they are quiet but transmit little bit more road imperfections like road joints compere to the GY, but Performance way better to GY CTT. So based on my pretty fresh experience I found This Pirelli Cintureto All Season P7 is superior to the tires I have and hand on my two Benzes include Mich., Bridge, GoodYears, Hankooks. Get them and you will feel how very confident, super stable, quiet your car is. About tread life, I can't say now but just let you know I change my tires close around 30 000 miles , Why??? because all tires get very noisy and rough over 30 000. remember this.

Best All-Terrain Tire Choices for 275/55R20 Size

Monday, June 30, 2014 by Gary Stanley

Not too long ago, 20-inch tires were rare, exotic and mostly reserved for high-end European SUVs or show vehicles gracing the cover of automobile magazines. Those that were available were ultra high performance tires, often with little to no all-season traction and wore very quickly. This is not the case today. In fact, 20" tires are an option on many popular trucks, SUVs and domestic and import crossovers. 

Of the 20" sizes that are used, one of the most common is 275/55R20. This size is often used on SUVs like the Cadillac Escalade, Chevy Suburban, Ford Expedition and GMC Yukon. Trucks that commonly use this size include the Chevy Silverado, Dodge Ram 1500, Ford F-150 and can even be used with 20" wheels on newer Toyota Tundras. 

A popular misconception is that one can't find more aggressive On-/Off-Road All-Terrain tires in this size. This performance category is one of the most effective in snow traction and light off-road capability in a tire that can be used year-round. Many of the best all-terrain tires on the market are available in this size, such as the Goodyear Wrangler All-Terrain Adventure with Kevlar and Michelin LTX A/T 2.   

 Goodyear Wrangler All-Terrain Adventure with Kevlar
Goodyear Wrangler All-Terrain Adventure with Kevlar
 Michelin LTX A/T 2
Michelin LTX
A/T 2


If you're looking for a more street friendly ride and longer wear, I'd suggest the Michelin LTX A/T 2. It compares quite favorably to a long-time favorite that you can learn about by reading, "BFGoodrich All-Terrain T/A KO vs. Michelin LTX A/T 2." For more aggressive snow and off-road traction, consider the Goodyear Wrangler All-Terrain Adventure with Kevlar as your top choice.  

Does your vehicle require a different tire size? Shop by size and view the complete selection available for your vehicle. 

Tire Rack Consumer Review of the Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 2

Thursday, June 26, 2014 by Tire Rack Consumer Reviews

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Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 2 Reviewer's Overall Rating: 9.38
 
 

2012 Volkswagen GTI
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Miles driven on tires: 2,000
Location: Binghamton, NY
Driving Condition: Spirited
 

Initial Review, 2,000 Miles on Tires
May 14, 2014

I bought these tires because they come as stock OEM tires on a Cayman/Cayman S/Carrera and after reading reviews about the praise given to these cars, I figured the tires might be a big contributing factor. I drive 80-85% on the highway and the rest on back roads or city driving. The softer sidewall make this an amazing highway tire, that rides great, and is quiet at temperatures above 50F. On cold mornings (40F-50F), the tires can feel a little rough and noisy but once they warm up, they are great. When up to temperature, I think they grip as well as the top summer tires...however the softer sidewall does reduce (slightly) the cornering stability and steering feel. I am willing to accept that trade-off for a comfortable daily ride. My FWD car has about 205 whp(w/ mods)and these tires don't spin at all under full throttle. After 2000 miles the front tires show .5mm of wear while the rears measure like new tread depth (10.5mm). I wouldn't hesitate to recommend these tires for someone looking for a summer tire that drives mostly on the highway.

Tire Rack Consumer Review of the Goodyear Eagle Sport All-Season (W-Speed Rated)

Friday, June 13, 2014 by Tire Rack Consumer Reviews

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Goodyear Eagle Sport All-Season (W-Speed Rated) Reviewer's Overall Rating: 8.12
 
 

2003 Ford Mustang Mach 1
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Miles driven on tires: 20,000
Location: Rochester, NY
Driving Condition: Average
 

Initial Review, 20,000 Miles on Tires
May 14, 2014

Overall the Eagle F1 All Season tires have exceeded my expectations. NOTE: I purchased them from Goodyear in 2010 but don't see them listed above. I previously had a set of Goodyear F1-GSD3 tires on my 2003 Mustang Mach1 which provided outstanding wet and dry performance at all speeds. After replacing the F1-GSD3s with the Eagle F1 All Season tires, I was pleased to find that they offered performance almost as good under most circumstances. They provide very good road handling for highway and city driving and have enough grip to handle quick cornering. I would definitely consider purchasing these tires again.

Tire Rack Consumer Review of the Goodyear Assurance Fuel Max

Monday, June 9, 2014 by Tire Rack Consumer Reviews

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Goodyear Assurance Fuel MaxReviewer's Overall Rating: Not Rated

2007 Toyota Camry Hybrid
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Miles driven on tires: 1,400
Location: Roscoe, IL
Driving Condition: Easy Going

Initial Review, 1,400 Miles on Tires
September 20, 2009

I put Goodyear Fuelmax tires on my Toyota Camry Hybrid. My immedediate response was relief that the Fuelmax also provided a great feel and ride. I was concerned what trade offs I had made with purchasing a new series tire before user reviews were very available. I drive a hybrid and am not looking for sport handling or track performance. These tires feel secure both on wet and dry pavement. The ride and road feel are as good as I have had on any previeous tire, EL-400 on this car and a line of Michelins on other cars. My mileage did not drop a bit, to my surprise. The worn out OEM tires had low roling resistance due to most of the tread being gone. And with most of the tread being gone, you actually get more revs per mile which registers more miles on your odometer. This makes a worn tire appear to get further improved gas mileage. So with the Fuelmax I was thrilled to record the same 42 mpg that I have been getting all summer in my Camry. I really am waiting to see the winter driving performance. I will provide an update as soon I get some winter weather to put them to the test.

Tire Rack Consumer Review of the Continental PureContact with EcoPlus Technology

Monday, June 9, 2014 by Tire Rack Consumer Reviews

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Continental PureContact with EcoPlus Technology Reviewer's Overall Rating: 9.64
 
 

2005 Audi A6 3.2 Quattro Base Model
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Miles driven on tires: 35,000
Location: Coralville, IA
Driving Condition: Average
 

Initial Review, 35,000 Miles on Tires
June 04, 2014

Fantastic tire!!! Replaced a set of Cont DWS - nice tire but started getting really noisy about 35,000 miles. This tire goes through all kinds of weather with no difficulty - snow is no problem at all. Noise is low, ride is fantastic and they are wearing like iron. I do drive mostly highway but they have already out performed the DWS, Goodyear F1 allseason, and Altimax I had previously. I think the XL makes a difference on the Audi - Highly recommend.

Tire Rack Consumer Review of the Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 2

Thursday, June 5, 2014 by Tire Rack Consumer Reviews

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Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 2 Reviewer's Overall Rating: 8
 
 

2003 BMW 330i Sedan
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Miles driven on tires: 14,000
Location: W Hartford, CT
Driving Condition: Spirited
 

Initial Review, 14,000 Miles on Tires
May 28, 2014

Have these on my 2003 BMW 330i with 18's (staggered 225/255)

great ride. plenty of traction in the dry and even better in the rain.

very quiet and smooth on the highway.

a little noisey on cold days but once they warm up they are quiet.

i feel confident in corners with these tires even more when its wet out. rivals pilot super sports imo

price is great for the performance you get

wear seems very respectable after about 14,000

sidewalls look great and even have a curb protector for your rims.

overall im happy and i would buy again.

Goodyear's Top-Rated Wrangler DuraTrac

Thursday, May 22, 2014 by Neal O'Neal

Goodyear has really hit the nail on the head with their On-/Off-Road Commercial Traction Wrangler DuraTrac. It's specifically designed for drivers of multi-purpose full-sized pickups, vans, sport utility and commercial vehicles looking for tires that work both on- and off-road. The Wrangler DuraTrac is developed to be a versatile tire that provides off-road competence in dirt, gravel and mud with on-road composure in dry, wet and wintry conditions.

Wrangler DuraTrac tires feature a rugged chip-resistant tread compound that also guards against chunking and tearing, especially under heavy loads associated with towing. Its symmetric tread design combines large shoulders and highly angled center tread blocks to enhance stability and traction in dry and wet conditions. Self-cleaning, stepped shoulder blocks, zig-zag sipes and Goodyear's TractiveGroove Technology at the base of the circumferential grooves provide thousands of biting edges to improve traction in deep mud and snow. Branded with the mountain/snowflake symbol, it meets industry severe snow service standards and can also be studded. Finally, it features a rim lock that helps prevent wheel slip throughout the life of the tire. 

Take a look at what drivers are saying about their experience with the Goodyear Wrangler DuraTrac:

"Best tire hands down! 63,000 miles and great in all weather conditions. I tow with my truck 80% of the time. They wear and hook up great! Just getting a new set put on now." - Tire Rack Consumer Review, 2006 Ford F-350 Super Cab

"Love these on my Silverado. Perfect truck tire and the ride is great with very little noise. I've had these in all conditions from dry, wet, mud, sand, snow and ice and they do great." - Tire Rack Consumer Review, 2012 Chevy Silverado 1500 4WD

Take a look at our survey results and see why the Goodyear Wrangler DuraTrac is currently the number one tire in its category.

Tire Rack Consumer Review of the Firestone Firehawk Wide Oval Indy 500

Thursday, May 15, 2014 by Tire Rack Consumer Reviews

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Firestone Firehawk Wide Oval Indy 500 Reviewer's Overall Rating: 8.75
 
 

2010 Dodge Challenger SRT8
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Miles driven on tires: 30,000
Location: Long Beach, CA
Driving Condition: Spirited
 

Initial Review, 30,000 Miles on Tires
May 02, 2014

The Goodyear tires my Challenger came with were loud and didn't handle particularly well. These Firestone Wide Oval Indy 500 tires are great performing tires and are reasonably priced. They look good too. I am on my second set of them. After less than a year on the Goodyears the car came with, the first set of Firestones lasted 2 years and the current set is approaching 1 1/2. I've never been in the snow and don't intend to. They are fine in the rain, though they are definitely made for dry streets.

Tire Rack Consumer Review of the Goodyear Wrangler DuraTrac

Thursday, May 15, 2014 by Tire Rack Consumer Reviews

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Goodyear Wrangler DuraTrac Reviewer's Overall Rating: 9.4
 
 

2006 Ford F350 Super Cab 4wd
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Miles driven on tires: 63,000
Location: Cambridge, NY
Driving Condition: Spirited
 

Initial Review, 63,000 Miles on Tires
May 08, 2014

Best tire hands down! 63k great in all weather conditions. I tow with my truck 80% of the time. They wear and hook up great! Just getting a new set put on now

Tire Rack Consumer Review of the Michelin Latitude Tour HP

Wednesday, April 30, 2014 by Tire Rack Consumer Reviews

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Michelin Latitude Tour HPReviewer's Overall Rating: 9.1

2007 Cadillac SRX AWD V8
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Miles driven on tires: 21,000
Location: Virginia Beach, VA
Driving Condition: Spirited

Initial Review, 21,000 Miles on Tires
September 01, 2012

Fantastic tire in the wet. Far superior to the OEM Goodyears. Quiet, smooth, and wear well. I expect 45k on these...worth the money.

Tire Rack Consumer Review of the Goodyear Assurance ComforTred Touring

Wednesday, April 30, 2014 by Tire Rack Consumer Reviews

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Goodyear Assurance ComforTred Touring Reviewer's Overall Rating: 8.55
 
 

2008 Nissan Altima Sedan
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Miles driven on tires: 60,000
Location: Rochester, MN
Driving Condition: Average
 

Initial Review, 60,000 Miles on Tires
April 22, 2014

I replaced my stock Continental tires that came on my '08 Altima with these tires. Wow, immediate difference in road noise reduction. My ears no longer rang on road trips. I no longer had hydroplane issues either. I drive quite a bit in the winter due to recreational skiing and teaching/patrolling on skis. I found traction to be quite good in all but the worst conditions.
Glare ice was the only condition that I had zero control in. Otherwise, hard pack traction was fine.
I have recommended these tires to other.

Tire Rack Consumer Review of the Goodyear Wrangler SilentArmor

Wednesday, April 30, 2014 by Tire Rack Consumer Reviews

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Goodyear Wrangler SilentArmor Reviewer's Overall Rating: 8.69
 
 

2002 Toyota 4Runner Limited 4wd
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Miles driven on tires: 55,000
Location: Riverhead, NY
Driving Condition: Easy Going
 

Initial Review, 55,000 Miles on Tires
April 22, 2014

I drive mostly on highway and country roads. We fish on beaches In Riverhead NY, and Cupsogue Bch, NY. The Wrangler tires performed excellent. I did not have to air down. I drive on farm land during the hunting seasons on an upstate farm - tires performed well and needed 4WD only on muddy or snowy situations. I got a bug to replace the Wranglers with "regular road" tires for highway, I went to Michelin. My thinking was I do little miles on the beach and farm, and we don't get many heavy snow storms on Long Island so I went for the Mich. all season tire. Bad idea. The Mich. do OK on the Northfork stony beach but on the fine sand Cupsogue Ocean beach I can bog down in the sand - soup-like spots. With the Wranglers I mushed through the very soft spots. With the Mich. I bog down to dead slow just going nice and slow until the sand gets a little "stiffer". I never had to air down with the Wranglers. If I air downed with the Mich, it would be better but I am getting lazy. The Mich. on the slightest mud are terrible on the farm. The slightest amount of mud, the threads fill and the truck slips terribly. Sometimes I have to go to 4WD low. In snow (farm) the Mich. are barely acceptable, if I didn't have 4WD I would get stuck for sure. O.K., I understand the Wrangler and Mich. have different tread designs. I didn't think the travel in sand, a little bit of mud or a little snow on the farm would bring my truck to a stop. I knew I would pay a price for the all season highway tread, I didn't know how big of a price. It was a bad move on my part. The Mich are a very good highway tires but not a combination (the all season) tire no matter how few miles I travel on the sand and farm to meet my needs. When I have to retire the truck I'm going back to the Wranglers. (Comment, over the past 50 years of driving on beaches and farms in all kinds of 4WD from Jeeps to pickups, the 4runner is my favorite, it is a billy goat that never breaks down.)