Tire Rack Consumer Review of the Firestone Precision Touring

Monday, July 21, 2014 by Tire Rack Consumer Reviews

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Firestone Precision Touring Reviewer's Overall Rating: 9.12
 
 

2008 Toyota Yaris Hatchback
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Miles driven on tires: 3,000
Location: Dulles, VA
Driving Condition: Average
 

Initial Review, 3,000 Miles on Tires
April 21, 2014

I just drove over 100 miles in the rain at 70mph. No problems with hydroplaning at all. Great wet weather traction! Good smooth ride on the highway at 60-80mph. Not sure what the speed rating is, but I didn't want to push it with the family in the car. They feel slightly mushy at low speeds under 40mph, but I've never lost traction. These are the best bang for the buck for a Toyota Yaris with 185 60 15 size tires

Tire Rack Consumer Review of the Firestone Firehawk Wide Oval Indy 500

Thursday, May 15, 2014 by Tire Rack Consumer Reviews

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Firestone Firehawk Wide Oval Indy 500 Reviewer's Overall Rating: 8.75
 
 

2010 Dodge Challenger SRT8
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Miles driven on tires: 30,000
Location: Long Beach, CA
Driving Condition: Spirited
 

Initial Review, 30,000 Miles on Tires
May 02, 2014

The Goodyear tires my Challenger came with were loud and didn't handle particularly well. These Firestone Wide Oval Indy 500 tires are great performing tires and are reasonably priced. They look good too. I am on my second set of them. After less than a year on the Goodyears the car came with, the first set of Firestones lasted 2 years and the current set is approaching 1 1/2. I've never been in the snow and don't intend to. They are fine in the rain, though they are definitely made for dry streets.

Tire Rack Consumer Review of the General Altimax Arctic

Friday, May 2, 2014 by Tire Rack Consumer Reviews

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General Altimax Arctic Reviewer's Overall Rating: 8
 
 

2014 Subaru Impreza WRX 5-Door
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Miles driven on tires: 6,711
Location: State College, PA
Driving Condition: Spirited
 

Initial Review, 6,711 Miles on Tires
April 20, 2014

This is a great tire, but not great for this car and my driving style. I sized this -1 (factory OEM is 17"), and in doing so created the majority of my "gripes" I have with this tire. The size I bought it in has been discontinued.

I have been using snows for the past 20 years, and I've tried Blizzaks, Generals, Firestones, Goodyears, Dunlops. I average around 7K a year driving in the winter on snows.

Good: The tire is an exceptional snow tire. Period. Snow to this tire is a traction additive. Deep snow, slush, light snow - not a problem. The tire hangs on very well when set on a singular course in the dry. Reasonably quiet. Stable under braking.

Bad: If you're a normal driver (commuter), *obey* the speed limit, etc. 95% of the bad won't apply to you. Because it is an exceptional snow tire, it leaves a lot to be desired in the dry. This tire is heavily siped so the tread-blocks are squishy. Full throttle acceleration isn't advised.

The web is full of comments of people complaining about the soft sidewalls, which I didn't heed. The sidewalls are *soft* and as a result I feel the tire compress over bumps before the car does. Somewhat unsettling if your car is stiffly sprung like the WRX is as you feel it "pogo" over transitions. Should you need to do a quick transition at highway speeds it is a sphincter clinching event. Just plan on hitting whatever you're trying to avoid if you're doing anything over 40 - the tires are easily overwhelmed.

Conclusion:

- A GREAT SNOW TIRE
- Very soft sidewalls - not intended for "sportier" or "firmly damped" cars.
- Surprisingly good tread wear - I wore off less than 2/32nds in 6711 miles of driving.
- These are not Blizzaks - on ice you're pretty much on your own unless you get studs. Given the price, I wasn't expecting them to match a Blizzak's performance.

Tire Rack Consumer Review of the Firestone Affinity Touring

Wednesday, April 30, 2014 by Tire Rack Consumer Reviews

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Firestone Affinity Touring Reviewer's Overall Rating: 8.73
 
 

2006 Toyota Sienna LE Fwd
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Miles driven on tires: 10,000
Location: Highland Park, IL
Driving Condition: Average
 

Initial Review, 10,000 Miles on Tires
April 22, 2014

Great tire. Works well so far in rain and snow here in Chicago. Starting and stopping is easy with no sliding.They provide a fairly quiet and easy ride. I am very happy with it. We have the same tires on our Camry and they drive very well on that car too.

Tire Rack Consumer Review of the Firestone Affinity Touring

Monday, April 21, 2014 by Tire Rack Consumer Reviews

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Firestone Affinity Touring Reviewer's Overall Rating: 9.09
 
 

2001 Subaru Forester S
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Miles driven on tires: 20,000
Location: Brownsburg, IN
Driving Condition: Spirited
 

Initial Review, 20,000 Miles on Tires
April 14, 2014

I installed these tires when I bought the car used and have had nothing but positive results. In the winter, these tires perform well in the snow. My AWD Subaru has no issues maintaining traction in all conditions. Driving in the rain is not any different than dry pavement. The previous reviews regarding low traction in snow and rain don't match my experience.

Tire Rack Consumer Review of the Firestone Precision Touring

Friday, April 18, 2014 by Tire Rack Consumer Reviews

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Firestone Precision Touring Reviewer's Overall Rating: 8.4
 
 

1995 Subaru Impreza L Sedan 4wd
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Miles driven on tires: 3,200
Location: Exton, PA
Driving Condition: Average
 

Initial Review, 3,200 Miles on Tires
March 26, 2014

Purchased four of these tires for an old 1995 Subaru Impreza L AWD daily driver. My main concerns for new tires was superior snow/ice handling, acceptable/above average wet handling, and above average dry traction with a great tread-life while keeping prices low. After I did extensive research and comparison charts I purchased the Firestone Precision Touring tires right as winter was in full force.

*In the snow/ice, the tires handle extremely well. I was driving around plow trucks with ease and mated with the AWD, was truly unstoppable this winter. Once the snow hit a few inches, the tires still gripped and when they did give way to sliding, were extremely predictable, allowing me to counter-steer with ease.
*Wet handling is acceptable, though not the greatest, but is not a reason to dismiss the tire, as it is still very predictable in those hazards.
*Dry traction and responsiveness are perfect with the only downside to cornering stability, which I believe is the weakest point of the tires. It can feel as if the tire would give way or takes a second to find the road when cornering. Despite this harsh review; it is actually on par with other tires for dry cornering in this price range.
*As to tread-wear, I cannot speak as to the performance of the category since I have not had the tires long enough.
*The comfort level is great. The tires take harsh bumps without any real complaints; in fact, I believe that I could have potentially bent a rim in lieu of popping a tire, of course due to the enormous potholes that plagued PA and DE (the Northeast Snow Belt area) this winter.
*Price - $77.00 a tire, which didn't break the bank for an old car but was well worth it.

Overall, I was looking for some affordable tires that would give me the best points of all-season tires, with increased winter time performance. The Firestone's came through and I will definitely purchase again, pending the outcome of the tread-wear. I would highly recommend them.

Tire Rack Consumer Review of the Firestone Winterforce

Tuesday, March 11, 2014 by Tire Rack Consumer Reviews

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Firestone Winterforce Reviewer's Overall Rating: 8.62
 
 

1986 BMW 735i
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Miles driven on tires: 250
Location: Wayne, NJ
Driving Condition: Spirited
 

Initial Review, 250 Miles on Tires
February 20, 2014

2014 In Northern New Jersey, so far has been bringing a snowstorm almost every week, 2 ice storms too. All my cars are (RWD) rear wheel drive and are very bad in snow driving conditions so i decided to buy the Firestone Winterforce tires with Studs installed on all 4 of them just in time before the major snowstorm we had on 2/13/14. I took my e23 BMW 5pd manuel on roads and steep hills that my car could never climb and those firestone winterforce gave so good traction in the snow, i was going almost the speed limit (40mph) of the road, climbing steep uphill through i say 5" of snow on an unplowed road. Actually had fun driving in the snow with no fear of getting stuck, lol. These tires saved me $28,000 from buying an AWD SUV do to harsh weather conditions this year. Also tried driving on black ice in parking lot at work and studs of tires griped through the ice at minimum slippage. Just speachless for 27 year old RWD. Also posted 2 video's on YouTube of my car going through the snow, "Snow Day Cruising BMW 735i (E23)" and video links ; http://youtu.be/HlMoVmECtA8 , http://youtu.be/Stfgt74w0P4

Tire Rack Consumer Review of the Goodyear Ultra Grip Winter

Tuesday, March 11, 2014 by Tire Rack Consumer Reviews

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Goodyear Ultra Grip Winter Reviewer's Overall Rating: 7.91
 
 

2003 Subaru Impreza WRX Wagon
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Miles driven on tires: 5,500
Location: Champlin, MN
Driving Condition: Spirited
 

Initial Review, 5,500 Miles on Tires
February 06, 2014

I was torn between these tires and and the Firestone Winterforce. I had the Winterforce tires on another vehicle of mine which was a Buick Lesabre the Winterforce made my Lesabre a tank in the snow I always felt safe and in control in any winter driving condition but the tires had to be switched out after winter. I wanted a winter tire that had some all season characteristics so I took a chance on these Goodyears and was immediately impressed they were quieter than the BF Goodrich tire that I had just taken off the car the sidewall is softer than an all-season tire but that is to be expected. I previously had Michelin's winter ice tires on this car for twice the cost the only thing I can say that was better about the Michelins they had a stiffer sidewall. These Goodyear tires so far have more then met my expectations.We have been hammered with lots of snow and sub zero temps in Minnesota this year and the Goodyears have performed flawlessly. I can't recommend these tires enough!

Tire Rack Consumer Review of the General G-MAX AS-03

Tuesday, March 4, 2014 by Tire Rack Consumer Reviews

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General G-MAX AS-03 Reviewer's Overall Rating: 8.7
 
 

2011 Mazda MX-5 Miata
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Miles driven on tires: 5,000
Location: Freeburg, IL
Driving Condition: Average
 

Initial Review, 5,000 Miles on Tires
February 17, 2014

I have these on my 2011 Miata, with a 6-speed manual and LSD. While their dry pavement traction is not quite as good as the Bridgestone summer tires that came with the car, these are probably the best all seasons I've ever had on a Miata (and I've been driving Miatas since 1996). I've previously used Bridgestone, Firestone, and Toyo all-seasons. My Miata is my only car, so parking it in bad weather isn't an option. I haven't had them long enough to truly judge wear, but they seem to be ok so far. While they were fairly quiet when brand new, I agree that they are becoming somewhat noisy. The ride is much less harsh than prior tires, probably due to somewhat softer sidewalls, but I still have a great amount of grip, and feel confident during hard cornering. This winter is the worst we've had in years, but I've never had any real trouble with traction. At about 45 mph on packed snow and ice, I tried to get the car out of shape using only the steering wheel, but was unable to do so. When I did break loose using the throttle, it was very controllable. In about 7 inches of snow on an unplowed parking lot, I had no trouble moving the car at all. I have never tried winter tires, so I can't do that comparison, but as long as you don't get too rambunctious, these tires do the job. I will also say that I really like their grip on both wet and dry pavement. When reading some of the negative comments on this tire, I almost wonder if they're reviewing the same tire, unless this tire performs that much differently from car to car. All I can say is that I'm very pleased with this tire. If this winter becomes the trend, I may get a set of winter tires, but barring that, I feel these are a really good tire for those who want to stick with all-seasons for their car.

Tire Rack Consumer Review of the Firestone Destination LE

Monday, March 3, 2014 by Tire Rack Consumer Reviews

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Firestone Destination LE Reviewer's Overall Rating: 6.71
 
 

2006 GMC Yukon 4wd
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Miles driven on tires: 70,000
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Driving Condition: Spirited
 

Initial Review, 70,000 Miles on Tires
February 28, 2014

Got these tires on my Yukon when I bought it. The tires were obviously not new. I remember about half the tread remained when I bought the car. Amazingly, It took twice as long as I thought it would to get to the wear bar on these! I put 40,000 HARD miles on these tires, with half their tread. I tow a trailer, I go off-roading, i commute, I work out of this truck, I go on long trips. No matter what, this tire on this vehicle took anything I threw at it and asked for more. I only got stuck twice with these tires off roading. Both times I was somewhere I had no business being. Once was in the sand dunes in the Outer Banks, the other was at an off road park in a 12" mud bog. Clearly i exceeded the limit of my tire and vehicle setup! But on pack sand at the beach, rocky trails, gravel mountain roads, in DC city traffic, or any other off-road situation, the tire performed beautifully. ON the highway, the tire was respectably quiet, smooth and wore EXCEPTIONALLY well. Some of my surprise is that I am used to performance cars that need tires about 3x as often, but this 60,000 mile tire was worth every penny and I bought a set of LE2's to replace these. Stand by for a review of those!

Tire Rack Consumer Review of the Hankook Ventus S1 noble2

Tuesday, February 18, 2014 by Tire Rack Consumer Reviews

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Hankook Ventus S1 noble2 Reviewer's Overall Rating: 9.73
 
 

2005 Mini Cooper S Convertible
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Miles driven on tires: 100
Location: Franklin, OH
Driving Condition: Average

Initial Review, 100 Miles on Tires
February 16, 2014

I bought my used 2005 Mini Cooper S Convertible in January 2014 from a local car dealership here in southwest Ohio. It came with Firestone Firehawk GTA-2 195/55R16 tires that had about 75% of the tread wear remaining. There was light snow on the ground when I drove my new purchase home. With just a couple inches of snow/ice on my driveway, I literally got stuck with the front tires just spinning. I researched this Firestone tire on the internet and discovered that it was poorly rated for anything except dry roads even though it is suppose to be an all season tire. Some reviewers even classified the tire as dangerous in snow and on wet roads. Since my adult children would also be driving this car, I knew that I had to get these tires off the car immediately. After extensive research on www.tirerack.com, I decided on these Hankook Ventus S1 Noble2 tires. They had a nice balance of performance and price. I had to order this tire in size 205/55R16 since it was not made in the recommended size 195/55R16. I was not thrilled with my limited choices of other tires in size 195/55R16. There was plenty of clearance for this Hankook tire on the vehicle and it only caused a 1.8% speedometer error (an actual 61 mph reads as 60 mph on the speedometer). I decided to write this review of this tire's performance on the Mini Cooper since one had not been posted. With this tire, there was an immediate and dramatic improvement in ice and snow traction. My Mini Cooper is now a fun little snow machine. Traction on dry roads is outstanding and wet road traction is now also excellent. Ride quality has improved by being significantly less harsh. I wanted the more compliant sidewall of this tire to improve the comfort of the Mini Cooper's stiff ride and was willing to sacrifice some handling characteristics to achieve that goal. I am not what anyone would classify as a spirited driver but to my surprise, I found the tire's handling also to be excellent.

 

Tire Rack Consumer Review of the Goodyear Ultra Grip Winter

Tuesday, February 18, 2014 by Tire Rack Consumer Reviews

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Goodyear Ultra Grip Winter Reviewer's Overall Rating: 7.73
 
 

2001 Mercury Cougar V6
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Miles driven on tires: 10,000
Location: Reading, PA
Driving Condition: Spirited

Initial Review, 10,000 Miles on Tires
February 16, 2014

This is my first set of Goodyear tires in a very long time. I have been running winter tire/summer tire combo for 14 years now. I've had Dunlop Graspics, Hankook Icebears for the past 5 years, Firestones witerfire, and so far these have been the best so far. My Abs hardly comes on compared to running on an all season tire. I would pass 4x4 and all wheel drive cars. I've gone by people stuck up hills and I just keep on trucking. I travel the PA turnpike and local roads to work and these tires haven't let me down. Pennsylvania has been hit hard with snow and these tires have been very good to me. Especially for the cost.

 

Tire Rack Consumer Review of the Firestone Winterforce

Friday, February 7, 2014 by Tire Rack Consumer Reviews

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Firestone Winterforce Reviewer's Overall Rating: 8.75
 
 

2013 Chevrolet Cruze
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Miles driven on tires: 50
Location: Belvidere, IL
Driving Condition: Easy Going

Initial Review, 50 Miles on Tires
January 29, 2014

I was worried about spending money on wheels and tires for a car that has good wheels, and tires with lots of tread. I was also worried I would not get bang for my buck.I needn't have worried.TIRE RACK MADE MY BUYING EXPERIENCE FLAWLESS!!!!I've had over 60 cars with all kinds of tires and listed my driving style as easy going but,I was working these hard to see what they will do and am impressed.8 inches of loss snow,hard packed snow,and ice,no problem.braking is what I was most concerned with and braking is excellent.There is more noise,not much,steering has a different feel,it is not a bad feel,just different.I ordered these at7:30 am central Monday delivered at 1:30 pm Tuesday!!!!Shipping,packing,speed,quality,did I mention TIRE RACK is the BEST, the only thing that could have been better is if it where free.

 

Tire Rack Consumer Review of the Michelin X-Ice Xi3

Thursday, February 6, 2014 by Tire Rack Consumer Reviews

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Michelin X-Ice Xi3 Reviewer's Overall Rating: 8.89
 
 

2010 Volkswagen Jetta SportWagen
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Miles driven on tires: 1,000
Location: Greenwich, CT
Driving Condition: Spirited

Initial Review, 1,000 Miles on Tires
February 03, 2014

I took delivery of the Sportwagen in October 2010. The OEM tires were new when they faced their first snowy season in Connecticut. I was constantly checking tire pressures because the handling in the lite snow and dry was terrible. I resigned my self thinking, "Be glad with the TDI but the Sportwagen is no handler.

This winter is above average for snowfall in Connecticut and the driving on uncleared roads is mission critical for me; getting my four year-old daughter safely back and forth to school. I decided to get dedicated snows for the winter. I've had Blizzaks, Dunlops even Firestone studded tires on other family cars. I liked what I read about the Michelin X-Ice3's and decided to try them. The Michelin X-Ice3's replaced the OEM all-season Hankooks. What a difference! I keep anticipating a slide or skid, but the X-Ice3's have raised the bar when driving in the snow.

OK, you would expect them to be way better than OEM All-Seasons in snow. But, the real surprise was that the X-Ice3's have better grip than the OEM tires did in both dry and rainy conditions. No more loss of traction when accelerating.
I've changed my mind, the Jetta TDI is a pretty good handling car. I expect the Michelins to wear longer than the Blizzaks I had. Come the spring I intend to treat the Sportwagen to a set of summer-performance tires; probably Michelin's.

 

Which Type of Winter / Snow Tire Is Right for Me?

Thursday, February 6, 2014 by Doc Horvath

Like anything else that relates to your car, tires are available in a variety of models that can be fine tuned to best match what you need. Selecting the best tire starts with narrowing your search to one of our Performance Categories, which Tire Rack has developed by using our own test results, customer survey results and manufacturer recommendations. These Performance Categories help focus your search by comparing tires with similar characteristics, allowing you to choose the best tire for how and where you drive. For dedicated winter / snow tires, there are three categories to choose from.

Studless Ice and Snow

In this category, tires use aggressive tread patterns and the latest high-tech rubber compounds to provide ice and snow traction similar to traditional studded snow tires. Customers that focus on this category are looking to get the best snow and ice traction possible, with the understanding that when the roads are clear, your high speed handling will be a little less responsive than a traditional all-season tire. A few options to consider in the category, include the Bridgestone Blizzak WS70, Michelin X-Ice Xi3, Dunlop Winter Maxx and Continental ExtremeWinterContact.

Performance Winter / Snow

Options from the Performance Winter / Snow category feature tires with tread patterns and rubber compounds that are tuned to improve dry and wet traction, along with high speed handling. Drivers that aren't expecting to see heavy or persistent accumulations of snow and want a tire that will handle and perform more like the performance tires the vehicle most likely came with when new will benefit from a Performance Winter / Snow tire. If this sounds like your style of driving, then take a look at the Bridgestone Blizzak LM-32, Michelin Pilot Alpin PA4 and Dunlop SP Winter Sport 4D.

Studdable Winter / Snow

Studdable Winter / Snow tires are designed to allow the installation of optional metal studs to enhance ice and snow traction. Customers that focus on this category are looking for a low cost winter tire option and are willing to allow for more road noise and less comfort than Original Equipment tires. Studded tires are often subject to state laws that dictate when (or if) they can be used, so always check local laws before selecting a tire from this category. Tires in this category include the Firestone WinterForce UV, General AltiMAX Arctic and Goodyear Ultra Grip Winter.

Take a look at our Winter Tire Decision Guide to help you choose the best tire for handling winter conditions. 

Hankook Ventus S1 noble2: Great Performance at a Value Price

Monday, February 3, 2014 by Zig Ziegler

The Ventus S1 noble2 is the newest Ultra High Performance All-Season tire offered from Hankook and a recent Tire Rack test showed the tire to be one of the best in its performance category. In our test, "Testing Value-Priced Ultra High Performance All-Season Tires," the Ventus S1 noble2 proved to be a top performer in key areas like ride comfort, road noise and wet traction. We compared Firestone's Firehawk Wide Oval AS, the General G-MAX AS-03, Goodyear Eagle Sport All-Season and Hankook Ventus S1 noble2.

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Hankook Ventus S1 noble2
 Hankook Ventus S1 noble2
Hankook Ventus S1 noble2


The Ventus S1 noble2 (H452) is developed for drivers of sports cars, sporty coupes and performance sedans looking to combine on-road performance with all-season traction in dry, wet and wintry conditions. Designed to provide Hankook's ideal ultra high performance all-season balance, the Ventus S1 noble2 blends handling and cornering performance with all-season traction, even in light snow.

Ventus S1 noble2 tires use hybrid compound technology silica that combines wet road traction with lower rolling resistance and longer treadlife. This compound is molded into a sophisticated semi-rib asymmetric tread design that features notched outboard shoulders, intermediate and center ribs to deliver responsive handling and stable cornering in dry conditions. Four circumferential grooves and inboard Aqua Hydro Block technology provide efficient wet traction and braking. Carving edge grooves and 3D sipes promote wet road and wintertime traction without abandoning dry road response and handling.

If you're looking to get the most tire for your money, the Hankook Ventus S1 noble2 is definitely a great performing tire at a value price.

Tire Rack Consumer Review of the Firestone FR710

Friday, January 31, 2014 by Tire Rack Consumer Reviews

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Firestone FR710 Reviewer's Overall Rating: 4.73
 
 

2012 Chevrolet Cruze
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Miles driven on tires: 62,700
Location: Newton Falls, OH
Driving Condition: Average

Initial Review, 62,700 Miles on Tires
January 27, 2014

These are the OEM tire that my car came with.

The winter traction is horrible! These tires are borderline dangerous in the winter. I am going today to get a different set of tires after 62k miles and 2 winters.

Tread life is awesome, the tires are wearing evenly and are a true 65k mile tire as advertised.

If you live in a southern state without snow then I would own these tires, but if you have to drive through one snow per year I would not recommend them.